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Three Recordings of Princess Ida
A Comparison of Timings
Much has been made of timing differences between the recordings of
Princess Idaparticularly of the two that Malcolm Sargent
made, over thirty years apart
(1932 and 1965).
Chris Webster timed the tracks on
both recordings with a stopwatch. He also benchmarked Isidore Godfrey's
1955 recording. The results are shown below.
Chris points out that recordings may have had cuts in some movements
that make the timings not directly comparable.
| Movement |
Sargent 1932 |
Godfrey 1955 |
Sargent 1965 |
| Overture | 3:40 | 4:13 | 3:38 |
| Search throughout the panorama | 2:39 | 2:51 | 2:56 |
| Now hearken to my strict command | 2:39 | 2:51 | 2:56 |
| Today we meet | 1:29 | 1:29 | 1:50 |
| From the distant panorama | 3:41 | 3:35 | 3:47 |
| If you give me your attention | 2:13 | 2:23 | 2:15 |
| P'rhaps if you address the lady | 6:11 | 7:08 | 7:18 |
| Towards the Empyrean Heights | 3:23 | 3:47 | 3:43 |
| Mighty maiden with a mission | 1:13 | 1:22 | 1:23 |
| Minerva | 2:14 | 2:55 | 3:22 |
| Gently, gently | 4:08 | 4:16 | 4:37 |
| I am a maiden | 2:15 | 2:25 | 2:51 |
| The world is but a broken toy | 3:01 | 3:14 | 3:02 |
| A lady fair of lineage high | 2:08 | 2:12 | 2:32 |
| The woman of the wisest wit | 2:08 | 2:12 | 2:32 |
| Now wouldn't you like to rule the roast | 2:29 | 2:43 | 2:35 |
| Merrily ring the luncheon bell | 1:31 | 1:44 | 1:46 |
| Wouldn't you know the kind of maid | 1:56 | 2:54 | 2:24 |
| Oh joy! Our chief is saved | 10:24 | 12:19 | 12:24 |
| Death to the invader | 2:40 | 3:13 | 3:13 |
| I built upon a rock | 3:04 | 3:44 | 3:30 |
| Whene'er I spoke sarcastic joke | 1:35 | 1:41 | 2:02 |
| When anger spreads his wing | 1:05 | 1:17 | 1:20 |
| This helmet, I suppose | 2:18 | 2:37 | 2:14 |
| This is our duty plain | :44 | :48 | :49 |
| With joy abiding | 2:20 | 2:19 | 2:25 |
These were Chris's observations on the timings:
It can be clearly seen from the above that Sargent's
1965 recording was
nearly always slower in each instance than the other two, but there are
enough moments when he was actually faster than Godfrey (or should we say
when Godfrey was slower than Sargent) to bring the two "modern" recordings
down to the same timing. It may also be seen that Sargent's
1932 recording
was nearly always faster in each instance than the other two, which may be
because of the conditions brought about by the limitations 78 sides, but
there is also evidence that his tempi were far too fast anyway in those
days.
In Charles Reid's biography of Sargent, there is a passage specifically
dealing with his stage tempi for Ida (pp. 141-2) that would certainly
suggest that he was a fast conductor anyway (there are many other items that
assist this theory), but there is also an incident referred to later in the
book (p. 166) which occurred during the recording of the
32 Ida, in which Rupert D'Oyly Carte
was actually called to the studio because of an argument that had
broken out concerning what must be assumed was an even faster tempo than the
already objected to stage tempo. "Too fast, much too fast for the stage
tempo" was his critics' argument. "But we aren't on the stage. We making a
gramophone recording" was Sargent's response.

Marc Shepherd, oakapple@cris.com
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